Goodbye Dragon and Condor, hello WesFiles

Our personal Dragon and Condor accounts are being phased out and merged into WesFiles, which will use a web-based interface. It will handle both personal storage space and personal webpages.

WesFiles gives us:

  • Web-based (and a few other methods, it seems) access to the files
  • Easy sharing
  • A 1GB quota! (this is compared to the 100MB Dragon and 20MB Condor quotas that were in effect previously)
  • Remote access without setting up a VPN (you should be able to connect from home painlessly)

The data on your personal Dragon/Condor accounts should be moved automatically. Stuff from shared course folders, etc. will not.

More info is available at the WesFiles Blog. Everything is up and working now (although files haven’t been transfered yet). I’m logged in now and so far everything looks good.

24 thoughts on “Goodbye Dragon and Condor, hello WesFiles

  1. Sam

    Another idea for keeping your e-mail box size under control is to have everything retrieved by GMail (or whatever other e-mail you happen to want to use). When your e-mail box starts to get full you can just delete all of the old stuff and it’ll all be stored in a very-easily-searchable form in GMail if you ever need it.

  2. Sam

    Another idea for keeping your e-mail box size under control is to have everything retrieved by GMail (or whatever other e-mail you happen to want to use). When your e-mail box starts to get full you can just delete all of the old stuff and it’ll all be stored in a very-easily-searchable form in GMail if you ever need it.

  3. Anonymous

    In regards to insufficient email storage, I’d say it’s worth bringing to whoever the ITS/student liason(s) are (WSA? I have no idea). There’s a number of reasons probably, but I’d imagine the top are:1) People just don’t realize students are having significant email quota issues. Faculty/staff’s (for new/migrated at least) default quotas are 2 gigs now so they don’t run into such issues as much; people may not realize students have an issue since they simply don’t run into it. I keep my quota at the same level of students, so I feel the pressure, but student feedback is far more valuable than my kvetching.2) Cost. The performance requirements for email storage are significantly higher than relatively static file storage. This coupled with some inefficiencies in the way storage is arranged on the backend results in a gig of “email storage” costing a bit more than a gig of “file storage”.3) Lifetime email. This is sort of related to point 2. Because email is given to alumni for life student quota can be quite tricky, especially since there’s a desire to avoid reducing student quota significantly once one graduates. Adding storage for 700 -odd people every year can get pricy.One thing that can help is to make filters to automatically delete some of the more annoying mail (obnoxiously oversized CFA & GOLD spam I’m looking at you) that gets sent out. Use with caution though since if you accidentally tell a filter to delete everything it will, well, delete everything.Oh, and as with just about anything I ever say this does not represent the views of ITS at all, just me.–Your friendly neighborhood sysadmin.

  4. Anonymous

    In regards to insufficient email storage, I’d say it’s worth bringing to whoever the ITS/student liason(s) are (WSA? I have no idea). There’s a number of reasons probably, but I’d imagine the top are:

    1) People just don’t realize students are having significant email quota issues. Faculty/staff’s (for new/migrated at least) default quotas are 2 gigs now so they don’t run into such issues as much; people may not realize students have an issue since they simply don’t run into it. I keep my quota at the same level of students, so I feel the pressure, but student feedback is far more valuable than my kvetching.

    2) Cost. The performance requirements for email storage are significantly higher than relatively static file storage. This coupled with some inefficiencies in the way storage is arranged on the backend results in a gig of “email storage” costing a bit more than a gig of “file storage”.

    3) Lifetime email. This is sort of related to point 2. Because email is given to alumni for life student quota can be quite tricky, especially since there’s a desire to avoid reducing student quota significantly once one graduates. Adding storage for 700 -odd people every year can get pricy.

    One thing that can help is to make filters to automatically delete some of the more annoying mail (obnoxiously oversized CFA & GOLD spam I’m looking at you) that gets sent out. Use with caution though since if you accidentally tell a filter to delete everything it will, well, delete everything.

    Oh, and as with just about anything I ever say this does not represent the views of ITS at all, just me.

    –Your friendly neighborhood sysadmin.

  5. Anonymous

    if you want a command line interface like ssh/sftp, use . you can get *nix versions and it runs under cygwin too. (if you don’t know what that means, you probably don’t want it anyway).

  6. Sam

    There is a specific “web” folder on your drive where your Condor stuff will be put, but I believe any file on the drive can be made shareable.I have no idea about SSH/SFTP/etc. and accessing it. You can do it through the web browser, through web folders, or using Xythos Drive (which I haven’t figured out how to use to connect yet).According to the WesFiles blog there’s supposed to be some way to switch over your username.web.wesleyan.edu URL from Condor to WesFiles but I haven’t been able to find it–I sent an e-mail about it and I’ll let you know when I know.

  7. Sam

    There is a specific “web” folder on your drive where your Condor stuff will be put, but I believe any file on the drive can be made shareable.

    I have no idea about SSH/SFTP/etc. and accessing it. You can do it through the web browser, through web folders, or using Xythos Drive (which I haven’t figured out how to use to connect yet).

    According to the WesFiles blog there’s supposed to be some way to switch over your username.web.wesleyan.edu URL from Condor to WesFiles but I haven’t been able to find it–I sent an e-mail about it and I’ll let you know when I know.

  8. Anonymous

    There’s no SSH/SFTP support. The only protocol supported is basically WebDav, for which there are many clients. Given the nature of Xythos, any folder has the potential to be “webspace”.

  9. Anonymous

    There’s no SSH/SFTP support. The only protocol supported is basically WebDav, for which there are many clients.

    Given the nature of Xythos, any folder has the potential to be “webspace”.

  10. Anonymous

    How will this phase Condor out? Do we get a personal webspace folder on this wesfiles? Is it accessible through SSH, SFTP?

  11. Anonymous

    How will this phase Condor out? Do we get a personal webspace folder on this wesfiles? Is it accessible through SSH, SFTP?

  12. Anonymous

    How about instead of giving us space for web access to files, they give us enough space in our email boxes to hold all the shit they send us every week?

  13. Anonymous

    How about instead of giving us space for web access to files, they give us enough space in our email boxes to hold all the shit they send us every week?

  14. Sam

    You can for most things, just not if you want to use Web Folders. And if you do you can use IE Tab, a Firefox extension that allows you to run IE inside a tab in Firefox.I don’t see any mention of alumni anywhere, sorry.

  15. Sam

    You can for most things, just not if you want to use Web Folders. And if you do you can use IE Tab, a Firefox extension that allows you to run IE inside a tab in Firefox.

    I don’t see any mention of alumni anywhere, sorry.

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