New details emerge from Courant story

The Hartford Courant ran another story on Friday’s early-morning Fountain Ave. incident. Here are some details contained in that article, that I don’t think have been highlighted on Wesleying yet:

Police claim it wasn’t just beer bottles that were thrown:

Police said the students threw beer bottles and a lit firecracker at officers, and ignored orders to disperse given via loudspeaker multiple times over 30 to 40 minutes. Patrick McMahon, the department’s deputy chief, said officers showed “great restraint.”

Police claim that normal procedures were followed:

McMahon said complaints the departments received from students would be reviewed. “Right now, it seems the officers followed policies and procedures in responding to a call for assistance,” he said. “Because of the size of the crowd and the aggressiveness of the crowd, we had to call for help ourselves.”

Police claim that this is not the first party breakup situation that they’ve dealt with… though students refusing to disperse is unusual:

“Every year we get called out there for large parties, but they end up dispersing themselves without any major incidents,” Sgt. Scott Aresco, a department spokesman, said.

It was a P-Safe shift supervisor who contacted the MPD:

Wesleyan public safety officers asked the students to disperse, but they didn’t. Around 1:30 a.m., the shift supervisor contacted Middletown police for assistance, police said.

Verbal abuse apparently went both ways, and MPD waited 40 minutes to call in reinforcements. MPD claims that the pepper balls were fired at the feet of students:

Nine officers eventually arrived and, using a loudspeaker, ordered students to disperse, Aresco said. Aresco also said a beer bottle was thrown at the car of the first officer to arrive, that students were verbally abusive, and that a lit firecracker went off under a parked police car.

When the students refused to disperse and continued to throw bottles and cans after 40 minutes, the officers requested support from state police and police in Cromwell and Portland, Aresco said.

Police then moved in to disperse the students, using non-lethal force that included firing at their feet with pepper ball guns, Aresco said. Police Tasered two students and arrested five students who allegedly attacked officers or interfered, Aresco said.

Police claim that no tear gas was used:

… said she then had trouble breathing because of what she thought was tear gas, though Aresco said no tear gas was used.

68 thoughts on “New details emerge from Courant story

  1. Anonymous

    i was there, and i remember the smoke bomb that someone threw landing near my feet, several feet away from the closest cop car. whoever threw it is an idiot, but “a lit firecracker went off under a parked police car” isn’t exactly what happened either.

  2. Anonymous

    i was there, and i remember the smoke bomb that someone threw landing near my feet, several feet away from the closest cop car. whoever threw it is an idiot, but “a lit firecracker went off under a parked police car” isn’t exactly what happened either.

  3. Anonymous

    6:29, do you really think a college student who admitted to being drunk has a more accurate handle of what happened than several sober police officers? Neither side has probably presented gospel truth, because both side’s accounts present their teller as nearly blameless. What happened was what you get when you combine drunken fratboys, curious and activist partyers, and overzealous police officers. BOTH sides are responsible and BOTH sides give twisted views of what happened.

  4. Anonymous

    6:29, do you really think a college student who admitted to being drunk has a more accurate handle of what happened than several sober police officers? Neither side has probably presented gospel truth, because both side’s accounts present their teller as nearly blameless.

    What happened was what you get when you combine drunken fratboys, curious and activist partyers, and overzealous police officers. BOTH sides are responsible and BOTH sides give twisted views of what happened.

  5. Anonymous

    6:56, This article is full of only those “opinions and observations” from one side, that’s why we’re mad, not to mention that some of these “observations” are blatant attempts to cover up the truth.

  6. Anonymous

    6:56, This article is full of only those “opinions and observations” from one side, that’s why we’re mad, not to mention that some of these “observations” are blatant attempts to cover up the truth.

  7. Anonymous

    The real impediment to resolving this situation will be the stubbornness of Wesleyan students to accept that there are opinions and observations, other than their own, that matter, too.

  8. Anonymous

    The real impediment to resolving this situation will be the stubbornness of Wesleyan students to accept that there are opinions and observations, other than their own, that matter, too.

  9. Anonymous

    that report is straight bullshit. the police had zero right to use the methods they did

  10. Anonymous

    that report is straight bullshit. the police had zero right to use the methods they did

  11. Anonymous

    The article doesn’t mention the extent to which inappropriate force was used. Andy Price’s “minor injuries” included a gash on his head that required staples from the bites of Officer Douglas Clark’s attack dog. Price was lying down with his hands above his head while the dog was allowed to chew on his scalp for 30-40 seconds before Clark finally called the dog off. There are other personal student accounts that do not mesh with the “great restraint” of the officers claimed by Aresco.

  12. Anonymous

    The article doesn’t mention the extent to which inappropriate force was used. Andy Price’s “minor injuries” included a gash on his head that required staples from the bites of Officer Douglas Clark’s attack dog. Price was lying down with his hands above his head while the dog was allowed to chew on his scalp for 30-40 seconds before Clark finally called the dog off. There are other personal student accounts that do not mesh with the “great restraint” of the officers claimed by Aresco.

  13. Nick

    I was not even on campus, but what bothers me most about this entire event is that we [Wes Students] did not pay any attention to PSafe’s initial attempt to clear up the party.Yes classes/finals were over, yes its fun to party. But PSafe is one of the few reasons our campus is as incident free as it is. I sure as hell wouldn’t want to go to Wesleyan if PSafe didn’t exist.Similarly, if the reports that students were throwing bottles/cans, verbally berating officers, and apparently throwing a smoke bomb under a police cruiser are all accurate, the Police responded as one would expect, with force.

  14. Nick

    I was not even on campus, but what bothers me most about this entire event is that we [Wes Students] did not pay any attention to PSafe’s initial attempt to clear up the party.

    Yes classes/finals were over, yes its fun to party. But PSafe is one of the few reasons our campus is as incident free as it is. I sure as hell wouldn’t want to go to Wesleyan if PSafe didn’t exist.

    Similarly, if the reports that students were throwing bottles/cans, verbally berating officers, and apparently throwing a smoke bomb under a police cruiser are all accurate, the Police responded as one would expect, with force.

  15. Anonymous

    it wasnt a “firecracker,” it was a smoke bomb. only smoke comes out -no sparks, no fire. thats not a danger, its just annoying. regardless, it wasnt even “lit at officers,” it was put under the car. just clearing that up.

  16. Anonymous

    it wasnt a “firecracker,” it was a smoke bomb. only smoke comes out -no sparks, no fire. thats not a danger, its just annoying. regardless, it wasnt even “lit at officers,” it was put under the car. just clearing that up.

  17. Anonymous

    anyone who thinks that what the cops did was justified is a fucking idiot. plain and simple.

  18. Anonymous

    anyone who thinks that what the cops did was justified is a fucking idiot. plain and simple.

  19. Anonymous

    i don’t know, seasonal allergies are pretty bad. i’ve personally lost about a pint of blood so far. who knows? maybe i am allergic to pepper spray.

  20. Anonymous

    i don’t know, seasonal allergies are pretty bad. i’ve personally lost about a pint of blood so far. who knows? maybe i am allergic to pepper spray.

  21. Anonymous

    i think i remember reading that the police used rubber bullets as well as pepper balls.. maybe they shot the latter at students’ feet and the former at their upper bodies.

  22. Anonymous

    i think i remember reading that the police used rubber bullets as well as pepper balls.. maybe they shot the latter at students’ feet and the former at their upper bodies.

  23. Anonymous

    It seems clear that the police willingly inflicted trauma — not only on those attacked, but on the collective consciousness of the community.There was wrong on both sides — but what the students did was, until the police arrived, largely victimless. The police themselves have injured students, created widespread apprehension, and have lowered their standing throughout this community. The only real victims in this seem to be those created by the police.

  24. Anonymous

    It seems clear that the police willingly inflicted trauma — not only on those attacked, but on the collective consciousness of the community.

    There was wrong on both sides — but what the students did was, until the police arrived, largely victimless. The police themselves have injured students, created widespread apprehension, and have lowered their standing throughout this community. The only real victims in this seem to be those created by the police.

  25. Anonymous

    I’m just so pissed off at whatever idiots thought it was a good idea to throw beer cans/bottles at police and–excuse me?!–light a fucking firecracker under one of their cars. I don’t care how drunk you are, that’s just sad.

  26. Anonymous

    I’m just so pissed off at whatever idiots thought it was a good idea to throw beer cans/bottles at police and–excuse me?!–light a fucking firecracker under one of their cars. I don’t care how drunk you are, that’s just sad.

  27. Anonymous

    just scroll down on the main page of wesleying, and you’ll see a video of a student lifting up his shirt: videotaped evidence that they were in fact NOT shooting at students’ feet, evidence of the lies which the MPD are releasing to the public

  28. Anonymous

    just scroll down on the main page of wesleying, and you’ll see a video of a student lifting up his shirt: videotaped evidence that they were in fact NOT shooting at students’ feet, evidence of the lies which the MPD are releasing to the public

  29. Peter

    The part about shooting at feet is probably not accurate – weren’t there some people who had scars from pellets to the chest?Not that I’m necessarily saying MPD deliberately aimed at people, but they can’t deny that some of their shots hit more than pavement.

  30. Peter

    The part about shooting at feet is probably not accurate – weren’t there some people who had scars from pellets to the chest?

    Not that I’m necessarily saying MPD deliberately aimed at people, but they can’t deny that some of their shots hit more than pavement.

  31. Anonymous

    2:54, what lies? Please send the “photographic and video proof” to Wesleying so we can all see.

  32. Anonymous

    2:54, what lies? Please send the “photographic and video proof” to Wesleying so we can all see.

  33. Anonymous

    So the police account is immediately dismissed as BS simply because it’s a police account? And people wonder why the public thinks we’re a bunch of arrogant elitists who don’t think the rules apply to them.Reading between the lines of everything it sounds like both sides were at fault. Some of the students were assholes. Some cops were assholes, but they had pepper spray.

  34. Anonymous

    So the police account is immediately dismissed as BS simply because it’s a police account? And people wonder why the public thinks we’re a bunch of arrogant elitists who don’t think the rules apply to them.

    Reading between the lines of everything it sounds like both sides were at fault. Some of the students were assholes. Some cops were assholes, but they had pepper spray.

  35. Anonymous

    The tear gas vs. pepper spray argument is inconsequential… if you do even minimal research into the two substances you will see that they are closely related. Furthermore I strongly doubt any student on the Wesleyan campus has the ability to tell the difference between the two. Also, the widely circulated picture of a “tear gas cloud (for you, 2:54)” was in fact a photo of the smoke from the firecracker thrown under the police car.In this case, we need to do ourselves all a favor and believe some of what the police are saying.3:02… I don’t see us taking any blame either!

  36. Anonymous

    The tear gas vs. pepper spray argument is inconsequential… if you do even minimal research into the two substances you will see that they are closely related. Furthermore I strongly doubt any student on the Wesleyan campus has the ability to tell the difference between the two. Also, the widely circulated picture of a “tear gas cloud (for you, 2:54)” was in fact a photo of the smoke from the firecracker thrown under the police car.

    In this case, we need to do ourselves all a favor and believe some of what the police are saying.

    3:02… I don’t see us taking any blame either!

  37. Anonymous

    because people coughing up blood and needing to wash out their eyes is because of seasonal allergies.

  38. Anonymous

    because people coughing up blood and needing to wash out their eyes is because of seasonal allergies.

  39. Anonymous

    Yeah, wow. It’s pretty ridiculous they would lie about so many things that there is photographic and video proof of!

  40. Anonymous

    Yeah, wow. It’s pretty ridiculous they would lie about so many things that there is photographic and video proof of!

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