Sound Co-op cancels its events for the semester

This is its letter to the student body in full:

In light of the decisions made by Scott Backer and the SJB, and the subsequent appeal that was denied by Michael Roth (read here: wesleying.blogspot.com/2009/03/sjb-shuts-down-all-eclectic-events-for.html), I have decided that the Wesleyan Sound Cooperative will cease functioning as of Sunday March 29th until the Eclectic event-hosting ban is repealed or a satisfactory settlement is made between the school and the Society allowing for access to the venue. This means that all events currently scheduled are considered canceled until further notice. Shows this week (23rd – 28th) will still be happening, as there is obviously not enough time for organizers to plan around the shutdown. If you currently have a show planned later than this week, you will or already have received an email from a WSC member. Please do not contact me or any other co-op members regarding this decision, as there will be no special exceptions made and no questions to be answered except, ‘has the school overturned the decision?’ As soon as the answer to this question is ‘yes,’ the cooperative will run again as usual. We are still taking event requests on our website (wesleyan.edu/wsa/wsc) in the hopes that this situation is resolved quickly. If you are disappointed or concerned by the turn of events, I ask that you politely email either Scott Backer (sbacker01@wes) or Michael Roth (mroth@wes) to explain how the shutdown affects you and ask that they reconsider their actions so that an amplified and vibrant campus culture may continue at Wesleyan.

Members of the Eclectic Society founded the sound cooperative almost 20 years ago in order to facilitate musical events that would otherwise be impossible to fund using professional audio companies. The co-op allows anyone who is interested the opportunity to learn life long skills in technical audio production and event planning. As a result of its creation, and in spite of the fact that to this day Wesleyan refuses to create a viable administration-organized free event space, the Sound Co-op saves Wesleyan students somewhere on the order of $30,000 – 60,000 a year in professional audio service fees. This allows for many more events to be funded, which in turn means that the co-op runs slightly over one hundred shows every year. By this count, I have organized sound for over 300 shows during my time here at Wesleyan and am fortunate to have many talented people transitioning into control as I will be graduating this semester. The co-op has expanded during my tenure to include many events not related to live music, which I see as a great development.

Unfortunately, the decision rendered by Scott Backer and the SJB aims to discriminate between where and what type of event is allowable on campus, thus dictating the realms of campus culture. I personally find this detestable and am of the opinion that the full ramifications of the punishment levied have not been thoroughly considered. The shutdown of the co-op aims to help rectify this oversight.

I am basing my decision around the argument that if the Wesleyan administration wants to define campus culture and what is or is not allowable based on how ‘problematic’ or how much of a ‘liability’ they perceive an event to be for them then it is folly to have a student-run and student-funded business continue to facilitate a culture we ourselves are not in control of. The ethos of the co-op is one of absolute indiscrimination, as long as we have the equipment and someone signs up to work, we will work an event. Despite the fact that the shutdown will result in lost wages for co-op workers including myself, I feel that this is the only acceptably principled response to an unprincipled and poorly considered punishment.

Historically, the administration has been happy to allow students to organize and pay for their own shows and events because student-run and student-funded events increase Wesleyan’s social capital at essentially no cost to the school. Utilizing the WSA, SBC, and SALD for assistance allows for an incredible number of student-run events to take place every week. However, with the Eclectic shutdown, the administration is asserting that they do indeed have a say in how student funds are to be distributed and thus what events may or may not take place on campus. Eclectic is the only free student-run venue on campus that has a seating capacity of over 100. Therefore, unless the SBC has the funds to pay for pro audio services at other venues, I will consider the school to be the party responsible for funding and organizing sound services for student events. I do not report to any school administrator, I help run a club funded by the SBC in order to make campus life more exciting and vibrant. The co-op works in direct service to the student body but will not be coerced into accepting fluxuating social ethics determined ad hoc by the administration.

I’m sure you can surmise that the school has neither the resources nor the desire to take up the slack left over by the co-op (except perhaps regarding WesFest), so I will preemptively make the assertion that it is now YOUR job to organize and fund sound services for events you would like to have or plan to have on campus. Again, please understand that I am not doing this to punish the student body, but instead to force those who utilize the co-op and those that directly benefit from it’s existence to make their displeasure known to the administration. I know this decision will be incredibly unpopular but I ask that you fully reflect on the historical and ongoing relationship the co-op has to events held at Eclectic and consider this a sign of solidarity and not a dismissal of individual student groups or events. Regardless of your personal opinions concerning the Eclectic Society or the events held there, I urge you to consider that the series of decisions made by the administration are of a discriminatory nature regarding what types of events the school implicitly condones. The fact that the administration is now trying to dictate how students should spend their own money is nothing short of insulting. The more you make your displeasure known to administrators, the faster we can move on from this terrible decision and get back to having great amplified events across campus.

Sincerely,
Yale Yng-Wong ’09, President of the Wesleyan Sound Cooperative,
Amanda Contrada ‘10, Co-President of the Wesleyan Sound Cooperative, and Max Krafft ’09, Ben Bernstein ‘10, Tom Brewer ‘12, Adam Gunther ‘11, Bill Kirstein ‘10, Sam Long ‘12, Mary Longley ‘10, Sam Lyons ‘12, Dana Matthiessen ‘09, Howe Pearson ‘12, Jeff Rovinelli ‘10, Fareed Sajan ‘09, and Harrison Schaaf ‘11

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140 thoughts on “Sound Co-op cancels its events for the semester

  1. yyngwong

    I don’t argue that I’m not being completely self-righteous because I am totally being self-righteous. You would be too if people were calling your an idiot and a liar and and asshole anonymously because you made a decision that you think is justified. How else am I supposed to defend myself than to respond incredulously to such a swath of people that have no respect for fellow students that they take advantage of every weekend only to shit on when they get fucked by a decision that largely has nothing to do with them.I’m sorry that I’ve offended you by making a self admittedly ‘wide’ analogy but you cannot deny that discrimination is a loaded word and there was little chance I wouldn’t take heat somewhere from someone for using it casually. However, you simply cannot in one breath accuse me of being a privileged hipster with no understanding of the woes of the world past and present when you’ve taken my words completely out of context. I appreciate the fact that you responded with a much more real post than your initial one, but it’s really still wrong to play the race card here as you are taking my words completely out of context. I did not say, what if the school didn’t allow black people in plays, I said what if the school didn’t allow plays about black/white/asian people because it was too ‘risky’ for them. My point was not to pull on the history of each respective culture but to put out three examples that are equally ludicrous to be openly ‘discriminated’ against in this day and age. My point was that there is simply no reason why the school should treat loud nighttime events any differently from daytime events.I simply cannot respect your decision to play the race card this way, and I don’t appreciate you referencing your history as though this is some game of ‘oneupmanship.’ Some people’s families had it even worse than yours and sometimes those people don’t feel the same intensity towards race as you do. Does that mean that they are less worthy of mentioning race analogously or that their feelings concerning race are less ‘adequate’ or ‘correct?’ I would argue no. Again, I appreciate your response because it makes your feelings clear and believable and I’m sorry for offending you, but we are both students of color and I have no idea why you think that as an Asian American I would be less sensitive or understanding of the plight of modern American minorities and their respective histories than any other person that has grown up with a similar identity. My apologies for being short with your first post, but I hope, after reading through the mess of this comments section why my fuse would be far past its end at this point.I think we are now satisfactorily completely past where we were supposed to be so, here’s to the internet, destroyer of everything good and rational. Consider this my farewell.-Yale Yng-Wong

  2. yyngwong

    I don’t argue that I’m not being completely self-righteous because I am totally being self-righteous. You would be too if people were calling your an idiot and a liar and and asshole anonymously because you made a decision that you think is justified. How else am I supposed to defend myself than to respond incredulously to such a swath of people that have no respect for fellow students that they take advantage of every weekend only to shit on when they get fucked by a decision that largely has nothing to do with them.

    I’m sorry that I’ve offended you by making a self admittedly ‘wide’ analogy but you cannot deny that discrimination is a loaded word and there was little chance I wouldn’t take heat somewhere from someone for using it casually. However, you simply cannot in one breath accuse me of being a privileged hipster with no understanding of the woes of the world past and present when you’ve taken my words completely out of context. I appreciate the fact that you responded with a much more real post than your initial one, but it’s really still wrong to play the race card here as you are taking my words completely out of context. I did not say, what if the school didn’t allow black people in plays, I said what if the school didn’t allow plays about black/white/asian people because it was too ‘risky’ for them. My point was not to pull on the history of each respective culture but to put out three examples that are equally ludicrous to be openly ‘discriminated’ against in this day and age. My point was that there is simply no reason why the school should treat loud nighttime events any differently from daytime events.

    I simply cannot respect your decision to play the race card this way, and I don’t appreciate you referencing your history as though this is some game of ‘oneupmanship.’ Some people’s families had it even worse than yours and sometimes those people don’t feel the same intensity towards race as you do. Does that mean that they are less worthy of mentioning race analogously or that their feelings concerning race are less ‘adequate’ or ‘correct?’ I would argue no. Again, I appreciate your response because it makes your feelings clear and believable and I’m sorry for offending you, but we are both students of color and I have no idea why you think that as an Asian American I would be less sensitive or understanding of the plight of modern American minorities and their respective histories than any other person that has grown up with a similar identity.

    My apologies for being short with your first post, but I hope, after reading through the mess of this comments section why my fuse would be far past its end at this point.

    I think we are now satisfactorily completely past where we were supposed to be so, here’s to the internet, destroyer of everything good and rational. Consider this my farewell.

    -Yale Yng-Wong

  3. Anonymous

    I’m the self righteous one? I’m not the one pointing you to the dictionary.Subjugation refers to when a group or authority puts another group under their control in a subservient position. It’s exactly the word I was looking for. African-American people were made submissive to the white people first through slavery, and then inequality in civil rights and liberties. I mean exactly what I say. I have just as much of a right to go to this school as you.To me, what I find appalling is your belief that you are somehow being discriminated against. I happen to be a student of color here and I was offended by your comments. Explain to me how exactly Eclectic is discriminated against? The university has not said that hipsters aren’t allowed to eat at the dining halls. They haven’t said that Eclectic members are required to pay an additional 40,000 dollars to go here. How is there discrimination in play? Allow me to provide you with an illustration that might shed some light on this issue. I have always enjoyed Eclectic parties. I have been to many, and found myself saying that these were, in fact, the best parties on campus. That’s not to say I haven’t had my differences with some of the membership, but on the whole, they are a group of standup people who are very nice. When the ban first was announced to the student body, I was angered and frustrated and wanted to make my voice heard: I signed the petition.As the issue progressed, I found myself becoming more and more angry with how Eclectic was handling the issue. Telling half truths, or masquerading opinion as fact. Or inter-splicing reported fact with overheard conjecture while maintaining an air of “transparence.”Then, Sound Co-Op decided to discontinue the lending of equipment until the Eclectic ban is resolved. I became more frustrated and asked myself how this could help. I thought it was doing exactly what the administration had done. The brass took away Eclectic, ergo there would be fewer fun concerts and events. At least there are other options and these events could happen elsewhere, I thought. Then, sound co-op stopped lending equipment. There would be no technological structure in place to support those other locales, ergo there would be less fun concerts and events.I still felt that as frustrated as I am, it was not fair what was done to Eclectic. But then you made your comment comparing Eclectic being shut down to an administrative ban on plays containing racial minorities, and I lost it. A comment like that would only be made at a school like Wesleyan with people so fortunate as to be able to attend parties at Eclectic and be outraged at their absence. I have parents who lived through the civil rights movement, and grandparents who were beaten and bloodied to stand up for something that was so clearly wrong but institutionally allowed. The right to party, sadly, doesn’t even remotely make me feel sorry.How does this relate to the Eclectic ban? A number of little frustrations and irritations can amount into something much larger than the sum of the parts. And the straw that breaks the camel’s back can be something so simple as a not-entirely-well-thought-out-argumentative-conceit.I want my name off the petition, because I no longer believe what it stands for. And excuse me for not wanting to give you my name, but after the way you’ve ravaged at the commenters here, I don’t feel particularly safe divulging information like that.Believe me: my outrage is very sincere. And you really shouldn’t call someone self righteous when you have the tone that you did.10:15

  4. Anonymous

    I’m the self righteous one? I’m not the one pointing you to the dictionary.

    Subjugation refers to when a group or authority puts another group under their control in a subservient position. It’s exactly the word I was looking for. African-American people were made submissive to the white people first through slavery, and then inequality in civil rights and liberties. I mean exactly what I say. I have just as much of a right to go to this school as you.

    To me, what I find appalling is your belief that you are somehow being discriminated against. I happen to be a student of color here and I was offended by your comments. Explain to me how exactly Eclectic is discriminated against? The university has not said that hipsters aren’t allowed to eat at the dining halls. They haven’t said that Eclectic members are required to pay an additional 40,000 dollars to go here. How is there discrimination in play?

    Allow me to provide you with an illustration that might shed some light on this issue. I have always enjoyed Eclectic parties. I have been to many, and found myself saying that these were, in fact, the best parties on campus. That’s not to say I haven’t had my differences with some of the membership, but on the whole, they are a group of standup people who are very nice. When the ban first was announced to the student body, I was angered and frustrated and wanted to make my voice heard: I signed the petition.

    As the issue progressed, I found myself becoming more and more angry with how Eclectic was handling the issue. Telling half truths, or masquerading opinion as fact. Or inter-splicing reported fact with overheard conjecture while maintaining an air of “transparence.”

    Then, Sound Co-Op decided to discontinue the lending of equipment until the Eclectic ban is resolved. I became more frustrated and asked myself how this could help. I thought it was doing exactly what the administration had done. The brass took away Eclectic, ergo there would be fewer fun concerts and events. At least there are other options and these events could happen elsewhere, I thought. Then, sound co-op stopped lending equipment. There would be no technological structure in place to support those other locales, ergo there would be less fun concerts and events.

    I still felt that as frustrated as I am, it was not fair what was done to Eclectic. But then you made your comment comparing Eclectic being shut down to an administrative ban on plays containing racial minorities, and I lost it. A comment like that would only be made at a school like Wesleyan with people so fortunate as to be able to attend parties at Eclectic and be outraged at their absence. I have parents who lived through the civil rights movement, and grandparents who were beaten and bloodied to stand up for something that was so clearly wrong but institutionally allowed. The right to party, sadly, doesn’t even remotely make me feel sorry.

    How does this relate to the Eclectic ban? A number of little frustrations and irritations can amount into something much larger than the sum of the parts. And the straw that breaks the camel’s back can be something so simple as a not-entirely-well-thought-out-argumentative-conceit.

    I want my name off the petition, because I no longer believe what it stands for. And excuse me for not wanting to give you my name, but after the way you’ve ravaged at the commenters here, I don’t feel particularly safe divulging information like that.

    Believe me: my outrage is very sincere. And you really shouldn’t call someone self righteous when you have the tone that you did.

    10:15

  5. yyngwong

    First of all, I am from a minority culture if by minority you mean within the United States. Secondly no, I am not directly comparing the subjugation (?) of minority cultures to closing down Eclectic. I am saying that discrimination is discrimination no matter what angle you view it from. There are certainly different levels of ‘intensity’ or ‘seriousness’ that can and are argued every day since the beginning of time but my point stands that discrimination as a word applies to both examples.Look up the definition of subjugation, I don’t think that’s the word you’re looking for, in fact, it isn’t the word you’re looking for. Additionally, your ironic rejoinder ‘Congrats’ to your first sentence completely negates any seriousness you may feel regarding the subjugation (?) of minority cultures. You are displaying a classic example of self-righteousness whereby you act offended as a guise to impose power over the person you are responding to. If you really wanted to take your name off the petition, wouldn’t you first check the website of the petition instead of insulting me only to then ask me to do you a favor?Additionally, you are a coward for insulting my name without posting your own. If I don’t know your name, how am I to take it off the petition?Please do not mock outrage anonymously just to feel better about yourself. It’s embarrassing.-Yale Yng-Wong

  6. yyngwong

    First of all, I am from a minority culture if by minority you mean within the United States. Secondly no, I am not directly comparing the subjugation (?) of minority cultures to closing down Eclectic. I am saying that discrimination is discrimination no matter what angle you view it from. There are certainly different levels of ‘intensity’ or ‘seriousness’ that can and are argued every day since the beginning of time but my point stands that discrimination as a word applies to both examples.

    Look up the definition of subjugation, I don’t think that’s the word you’re looking for, in fact, it isn’t the word you’re looking for.

    Additionally, your ironic rejoinder ‘Congrats’ to your first sentence completely negates any seriousness you may feel regarding the subjugation (?) of minority cultures.

    You are displaying a classic example of self-righteousness whereby you act offended as a guise to impose power over the person you are responding to. If you really wanted to take your name off the petition, wouldn’t you first check the website of the petition instead of insulting me only to then ask me to do you a favor?

    Additionally, you are a coward for insulting my name without posting your own. If I don’t know your name, how am I to take it off the petition?

    Please do not mock outrage anonymously just to feel better about yourself. It’s embarrassing.

    -Yale Yng-Wong

  7. Anonymous

    Are you comparing closing down Eclectic to the subjugation of minority cultures?Congrats, you just lost my support.Is there a way to take my name off the petition?

  8. Anonymous

    Are you comparing closing down Eclectic to the subjugation of minority cultures?

    Congrats, you just lost my support.

    Is there a way to take my name off the petition?

  9. Wes

    less than half of the coop workers who signed the letter are eclectic members.coop does not have money allotted to them annually out of sbc funds. workers get paid by the hour and equipment buys are petitioned to the sbc just like anything else. there isnt any income made for the group.it is worth noting that of people who had shows REGISTERED with coop during the period of the strike (none of which are thesis shows), none have complained to us about the cancellation of our services. We are, as Yale said, more than willing to help find a cheap alternative for sound, but sound for any shows we will not be working because of the strike — especially for those that we had not accepted before the decision was made — should be the responsibility of the school to find or pay for.Lastly, for those who are complaining about the cancellation of any shows that may stem from the strike, I would like to ask you to apply that same indignation to the shows that will be canceled with Eclectic being off the table as a venue.I can promise that I will be just as dismayed as anyone else, if not more, by any show cancellations, but if you would like to help get the student control of the music scene, and thus the shows, back on track please address these issues with Roth, Backer, or Whaley.-Amanda

  10. Wes

    less than half of the coop workers who signed the letter are eclectic members.

    coop does not have money allotted to them annually out of sbc funds. workers get paid by the hour and equipment buys are petitioned to the sbc just like anything else. there isnt any income made for the group.

    it is worth noting that of people who had shows REGISTERED with coop during the period of the strike (none of which are thesis shows), none have complained to us about the cancellation of our services. We are, as Yale said, more than willing to help find a cheap alternative for sound, but sound for any shows we will not be working because of the strike — especially for those that we had not accepted before the decision was made — should be the responsibility of the school to find or pay for.

    Lastly, for those who are complaining about the cancellation of any shows that may stem from the strike, I would like to ask you to apply that same indignation to the shows that will be canceled with Eclectic being off the table as a venue.

    I can promise that I will be just as dismayed as anyone else, if not more, by any show cancellations, but if you would like to help get the student control of the music scene, and thus the shows, back on track please address these issues with Roth, Backer, or Whaley.

    -Amanda

  11. yyngwong

    There are no previously contracted thesis shows that will be canceled by the co-op. You can look at the calendar. Additionally, the co-op provides sound for thesis needs completely unrelated to it’s service as a WSA sponsored club. Again, this is a bonus that the co-op provides for thesis students that is not even condoned by the WSA itself as a thesis event is technically the sole responsibility of the thesis writer/performer and not the student body at large.Using the equipment for a personal thesis may even violate WSA rules but we do it anyway. The reason stated expressly in my letter explains that the co-op and co-op workers will not work on a campus that restricts the type, size, and kind of show for no apparent reason as this is blatant discrimination and completely antithetical to the basis on which the co-op was founded. Imagine if the school decided that plays about black/white/asian people were too much of a ‘risk’ to take and banned them from the ’92. Would the second stage workers still work? I know that this is a much subtler discrimination but as someone who is deeply committed to the Wesleyan music scene it is still disgusting in my eyes.-Yale Yng-Wong

  12. yyngwong

    There are no previously contracted thesis shows that will be canceled by the co-op. You can look at the calendar. Additionally, the co-op provides sound for thesis needs completely unrelated to it’s service as a WSA sponsored club. Again, this is a bonus that the co-op provides for thesis students that is not even condoned by the WSA itself as a thesis event is technically the sole responsibility of the thesis writer/performer and not the student body at large.
    Using the equipment for a personal thesis may even violate WSA rules but we do it anyway.

    The reason stated expressly in my letter explains that the co-op and co-op workers will not work on a campus that restricts the type, size, and kind of show for no apparent reason as this is blatant discrimination and completely antithetical to the basis on which the co-op was founded. Imagine if the school decided that plays about black/white/asian people were too much of a ‘risk’ to take and banned them from the ’92. Would the second stage workers still work? I know that this is a much subtler discrimination but as someone who is deeply committed to the Wesleyan music scene it is still disgusting in my eyes.

    -Yale Yng-Wong

  13. Anonymous

    If the co-op has promised its equipment and services to performances (especially theses), it may be violating its status as a student group to then withdraw these services without reason (as opposed to, for example, the second stage strike system that justifies the termination of various services depending on infractions made by the show). also it is a real asshole move to do that to a person’s thesis

  14. Anonymous

    If the co-op has promised its equipment and services to performances (especially theses), it may be violating its status as a student group to then withdraw these services without reason (as opposed to, for example, the second stage strike system that justifies the termination of various services depending on infractions made by the show).

    also it is a real asshole move to do that to a person’s thesis

  15. Anonymous

    1:48Blackmail is when you threaten to do something to someone if they don’t do something you want. The co-op is shutting down next week regardless of what anyone does, therefore this is obviously not blackmail.

  16. Anonymous

    1:48

    Blackmail is when you threaten to do something to someone if they don’t do something you want. The co-op is shutting down next week regardless of what anyone does, therefore this is obviously not blackmail.

  17. Anonymous

    2:14I don’t question the right of the members of the co-op to strike and refuse to work when their interests are not being protected and understood. However, if 1:44 is right, and the equipment was paid for by SBC funds and funds from their rental, the equipment IS the property of the student body and denying the use of the EQUIPMENT is unfair to those who rely on it for performances or other events. Even if the Co-op does not work at events, they should still allow the rental of equipment to those qualified to use it. The party ban controversy aside, it is the responsibility of the Co-op to provide continued access to purchased using money that every student pays as part of their annual fees. If the Argus refused to print the paper for any political reason, it would be a clear misuse of student funds.I have been to countless shows put on by the Co-op and thank them for what they do. Having read the statement by Eclectic today, I also agree that they were mistreated by Administration. There are a lot of separate issues here and it is important to separate them so that the wrong people are not affected.

  18. Anonymous

    2:14
    I don’t question the right of the members of the co-op to strike and refuse to work when their interests are not being protected and understood. However, if 1:44 is right, and the equipment was paid for by SBC funds and funds from their rental, the equipment IS the property of the student body and denying the use of the EQUIPMENT is unfair to those who rely on it for performances or other events. Even if the Co-op does not work at events, they should still allow the rental of equipment to those qualified to use it.

    The party ban controversy aside, it is the responsibility of the Co-op to provide continued access to purchased using money that every student pays as part of their annual fees. If the Argus refused to print the paper for any political reason, it would be a clear misuse of student funds.

    I have been to countless shows put on by the Co-op and thank them for what they do. Having read the statement by Eclectic today, I also agree that they were mistreated by Administration. There are a lot of separate issues here and it is important to separate them so that the wrong people are not affected.

  19. yyngwong

    Again, the sound co-op is a completely volunteer organization. I have worked, for you, for the past four years. Often giving up my entire weekend to run shows and deal with bands. I am under no obligation to work for you and neither is any co-op member. We do this because we want to, and you absolutely must respect our decision to stop when we don’t want to. Anyone who is interested in having a show is welcome to contact an external contractor and negotiate a deal to then propose to the SBC. If you send an email to wes.wsc@gmail.com I will gladly assist you to try and find someone who is cheap enough for the SBC to afford.It is absolutely not unconscionable to have a general strike of workers. You are welcome to scab and ask the SBC/WSA for control of the equipment to run the co-op yourself. In doing so, you will be willingly voicing your support for the cancellation of a large percentage of loud music events involving your peers on campus in favor of your own desires. If this is what you think is conscionable then by all means go ahead.-Yale Yng-Wong

  20. yyngwong

    Again, the sound co-op is a completely volunteer organization. I have worked, for you, for the past four years. Often giving up my entire weekend to run shows and deal with bands. I am under no obligation to work for you and neither is any co-op member. We do this because we want to, and you absolutely must respect our decision to stop when we don’t want to. Anyone who is interested in having a show is welcome to contact an external contractor and negotiate a deal to then propose to the SBC. If you send an email to wes.wsc@gmail.com I will gladly assist you to try and find someone who is cheap enough for the SBC to afford.

    It is absolutely not unconscionable to have a general strike of workers. You are welcome to scab and ask the SBC/WSA for control of the equipment to run the co-op yourself. In doing so, you will be willingly voicing your support for the cancellation of a large percentage of loud music events involving your peers on campus in favor of your own desires. If this is what you think is conscionable then by all means go ahead.

    -Yale Yng-Wong

  21. Anonymous

    It would be one thing if this were just a sacrifice on the part of the co-op members, who will be losing income as a result of this action. But additionally they are punishing the entire student body by removing the only cheap source of sound equipment and expertise on campus, which is not something that the entire student body has agreed to.The equipment, furthermore, does not belong to Ecletic nor to the members of the sound co-op, but rather to the student body, as it was paid for by a combination of SBC funds (which we all contribute to) and income from renting it out (which was only made possible by SBC funds). Denying us this important resource, which is ours, is unconscionable and does little to inspire respect for their cause.By coercing support through collective punishment, the sound co-op has become no better than the administration in this matter.

  22. Anonymous

    It would be one thing if this were just a sacrifice on the part of the co-op members, who will be losing income as a result of this action. But additionally they are punishing the entire student body by removing the only cheap source of sound equipment and expertise on campus, which is not something that the entire student body has agreed to.

    The equipment, furthermore, does not belong to Ecletic nor to the members of the sound co-op, but rather to the student body, as it was paid for by a combination of SBC funds (which we all contribute to) and income from renting it out (which was only made possible by SBC funds). Denying us this important resource, which is ours, is unconscionable and does little to inspire respect for their cause.

    By coercing support through collective punishment, the sound co-op has become no better than the administration in this matter.

  23. Anonymous

    I’ll put in my voice in solidarity.There’s this refrain that we have to wait to hear the real story of what happened at Eclectic. I am somewhat curious, but I think it’s basically unrelated. The point here is that the punishment imposed by the SJB does not impose only on Eclectic; it eliminates a vital student run space. Eclectic does not get such joy from offering up their home 3 nights a week to get trashed by students that to deny them this is a punishment. Taking away this space, which until now Eclectic residents and members have generously offered, is a punishment to musicians and students who want to put on shows or see shows. Sound Coop is not nefariously forcing everyone to like Eclectic. Some people will continue to think Eclectic members are arrogant and pretentious, and that’s fine. But Sound Coop is standing in solidarity because this campus deserves a student run concert scene. The message Sound Coop is sending is that they are not going to provide super discounted services if they have to work in a campus climate that restricts what a student run concert scene can be. Do not get angry at Sound Coop. They are simply standing in solidarity until a vital campus space is returned to the students.-non-Eclectic, non-Sound Coop student who likes shows

  24. Anonymous

    I’ll put in my voice in solidarity.

    There’s this refrain that we have to wait to hear the real story of what happened at Eclectic. I am somewhat curious, but I think it’s basically unrelated. The point here is that the punishment imposed by the SJB does not impose only on Eclectic; it eliminates a vital student run space. Eclectic does not get such joy from offering up their home 3 nights a week to get trashed by students that to deny them this is a punishment. Taking away this space, which until now Eclectic residents and members have generously offered, is a punishment to musicians and students who want to put on shows or see shows. Sound Coop is not nefariously forcing everyone to like Eclectic. Some people will continue to think Eclectic members are arrogant and pretentious, and that’s fine. But Sound Coop is standing in solidarity because this campus deserves a student run concert scene. The message Sound Coop is sending is that they are not going to provide super discounted services if they have to work in a campus climate that restricts what a student run concert scene can be. Do not get angry at Sound Coop. They are simply standing in solidarity until a vital campus space is returned to the students.

    -non-Eclectic, non-Sound Coop student who likes shows

  25. yyngwong

    Hi everyone, let me state clearly that it was never my intention that this shutdown last though the entire month, or even at all. YOU do have a voice in this community and the only thing I can try to do is make you use it. If there is one thing you take away from my letter, it’s that your voice, coupled with others’ WILL make a difference. Before you freak out about not having shows on campus, consider actually writing to Roth or Backer and not wasting your precious anger slandering my name anonymously here like is the norm. If you would like to personally insult me for being a ‘hipster’ or an ‘idiot’ or an ‘asshole’ or a ‘liar’ please send it directly to my email address at yyngwong@wesleyan.edu instead of posting it on here where it gets absolutely nothing changed regarding the situation. As much as I know you won’t believe me, I am a PERSON with ETHICS and MORALS FIRST and a member of Eclectic somewhere much farther down that list. If you see this action as some coercive maneuver you should read my letter again, and this time read it like someone you respect had written it and was reading it to you. That is how I wrote it and I know I’ve served this community long enough to expect that that is how it should be read.-Yale Yng-Wong

  26. yyngwong

    Hi everyone, let me state clearly that it was never my intention that this shutdown last though the entire month, or even at all. YOU do have a voice in this community and the only thing I can try to do is make you use it. If there is one thing you take away from my letter, it’s that your voice, coupled with others’ WILL make a difference. Before you freak out about not having shows on campus, consider actually writing to Roth or Backer and not wasting your precious anger slandering my name anonymously here like is the norm. If you would like to personally insult me for being a ‘hipster’ or an ‘idiot’ or an ‘asshole’ or a ‘liar’ please send it directly to my email address at yyngwong@wesleyan.edu instead of posting it on here where it gets absolutely nothing changed regarding the situation.

    As much as I know you won’t believe me, I am a PERSON with ETHICS and MORALS FIRST and a member of Eclectic somewhere much farther down that list. If you see this action as some coercive maneuver you should read my letter again, and this time read it like someone you respect had written it and was reading it to you. That is how I wrote it and I know I’ve served this community long enough to expect that that is how it should be read.

    -Yale Yng-Wong

  27. Anonymous

    12:52This is the stupidest post I have ever seen on Wesleying, congratulations for completely ignoring an extremely long and well worded defense of a position that surely was not easy to make and then making a completely inane contradictory post about how you obviously don’t understand how anything in this entire university works. At all.

  28. Anonymous

    12:52

    This is the stupidest post I have ever seen on Wesleying, congratulations for completely ignoring an extremely long and well worded defense of a position that surely was not easy to make and then making a completely inane contradictory post about how you obviously don’t understand how anything in this entire university works. At all.

  29. Anonymous

    This is both stupid and infantile. Quit whining and allow some shows to go on on campus. The hipsters on campus are quickly proving to be a bunch of childish bitches. Moving on is a much bigger fuck you to the administration than a bunch of passive aggressive protests. They’re probably thrilled by your choice to essentially eliminate all shows on campus. It’s more quiet for Roth to get some beauty sleep.

  30. Anonymous

    This is both stupid and infantile. Quit whining and allow some shows to go on on campus. The hipsters on campus are quickly proving to be a bunch of childish bitches. Moving on is a much bigger fuck you to the administration than a bunch of passive aggressive protests. They’re probably thrilled by your choice to essentially eliminate all shows on campus. It’s more quiet for Roth to get some beauty sleep.

  31. Anonymous

    I am in a number of bands, and will likely no be able to play a number of shows this year because of this action. I do however support Eclectic and the Co-op, and respect the sacrifices they are making to change the campus climate. People should realize that Eclectic members are In tons of bands, and are large consumers of live music on campus. They are not going to get to do these things either. This is what activism looks like.

  32. Anonymous

    I am in a number of bands, and will likely no be able to play a number of shows this year because of this action. I do however support Eclectic and the Co-op, and respect the sacrifices they are making to change the campus climate. People should realize that Eclectic members are In tons of bands, and are large consumers of live music on campus. They are not going to get to do these things either. This is what activism looks like.

  33. Anonymous

    Many members of the Sound Co-op are in campus bands, enjoy going to shows, and work for the co-op as their primary means of on-campus income, and will thus also be affected by this decision. Can you believe that, for us, this act is not selfish or spiteful, but a sacrifice?Max

  34. Anonymous

    Many members of the Sound Co-op are in campus bands, enjoy going to shows, and work for the co-op as their primary means of on-campus income, and will thus also be affected by this decision. Can you believe that, for us, this act is not selfish or spiteful, but a sacrifice?

    Max

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