Why I Chose to Vote “No” on the Senior Cocks proposal

UPDATE: Read the email sent to the senior class here.

**Because this post seems to have struck a nerve and is slowly getting buried under event posts, it has been stickied to the top of the page. Please continue the (mostly) civil conversation. I encourage anyone who has something to say to go ahead and comment despite what response they think they’ll receive. Don’t forget to scroll down for new posts!**

As many of you have heard, the senior class presidents recently emailed all members of the senior class with a proposal to cancel the next senior cocks and instead donate the $15,000 allotted to that event for relief efforts in Haiti. That email was sent out on Monday and we have until today (Wednesday) to vote on it.

In the days since, a facebook group has been created and a pretty heated discussion has developed on the ACB. In the midst of Haiti hysteria (fueled partly by compassion and partly by a perverse interest in large scale destruction), the overwhelming majority of discussions have centered on how people can help more than they already have and how what has been done is nowhere near enough. It has become our responsibility and moral duty to get involved and help a people who have already been dealt more misfortune than we can even understand by giving up some of our excess.

Wesleyan students were impressively quick in organizing themselves to come up with strategies for aiding the relief efforts. That is commendable and I really hope that they are successful in their mission. However, this hastily made proposal to cancel senior cocks, has brought out a lot of knee-jerk reactions to vote “Yes” from people who sincerely want to help any way possible and people who were never really behind the idea of senior cocks anyway.

I know I, and many others, don’t appreciate being made to choose essentially between partying and donating to charity. That’s a choice I make every time I party and don’t donate money, but now there is a lot of social pressure to vote a certain way. This post is a chance for me to express what appears to be a very unfavorable opinion that a surprising amount of people share. I also hope this can open up discussion.

(I hope you’re all over the age of 16, ’cause there’s gonna be a lot of cocks in this post.)

The Survey is Flawed

  1. 3 days is not enough time. I’m not sure what the rush is about here. Of course, the date for the planned February cocks is coming up, but considering that the proposal is about changing those plans, I don’t see how having at least a full week would create any time crunch. Some would say that it’s important to act quickly so we could get money to Haiti quickly but there’s probably more money coming in than they can use right now (for most major orgs).  Having only 3 days to make this decision means that there wasn’t much time to get an actual discussion going, which is one of the major problems with the whole proposal.
  2. Anyone can vote. Not everyone in the senior class paid for cocktails, yet they all got the email with the link to the survey. As a matter of fact, anybody who checks out the facebook group can click the link and vote too. I do not feel comfortable letting my money’s use be decided with a survey that allows people who put in no money to be involved in making the decision. This is a really sloppy way to make decisions about where to put funds. I would expect people experienced with managing a lot of other people’s money wouldn’t let this kind of situation happen with the voting.
  3. Yes or No is not enough. The cute “Feel free to explain why/why not” box is pretty much just there for show. The options are “Yes” and “No” and there is no place for discussion or opposition that will actually change the proposal. When, I voted “No” I didn’t write anything because there didn’t seem to be a point. Student opinion here is pretty much limited to two one-word options, which is insulting to our intelligence and ability to think in more nuanced ways about issues.

Where Does This Put Cocktails?

  1. Are they completely frivolous? The general reason given for why we should donate the senior cocktail funds is usually that cocks is just one night of drinking and it’s really an example of waste and excess. I can definitely see where that argument is coming from, but I already kinda knew this when I decided to pay for them in the first place. Having cocks be put up against donating to a needy country makes it look all the more wasteful and unnecessary. I know that not everybody goes to cocks for the same reason, but having the event be so easily dismissed as expendable and even an embarrassing display of drunken excess, makes me wonder if anyone can ever make a real argument for why we should have them without looking like an ignorant binge drinker. The money spent on cocktails never wasn’t being spent on having a good drunken time even though most of us would probably have agreed that there were other more useful ways that money could be spent. That is all to say that this raises a bigger issue about why we pay for the event and how comfortable we feel about that. If you did not hesitate at all to give up this event, why pay for it in the first place?
  2. Bonding is important too! Part of what makes cocks worth the money was that I got to be with most of my friends for a few hours and even get a chance to meet new people. It was really cool meeting people on the bus and just having fun. That was worth the money I paid, in my opinion. In other words, I was never paying for just useless debauchery. That’s kinda an every weekend thing. The fact that no alternate plans for how we might get to spend that time together as a class were proposed or even mentioned as a concern gives me the impression that the senior class officers see cocktails as little more than drinking. I could definitely be wrong and I wouldn’t be stupid enough to claim to know what they’re thinking or planning but that’s the impression I’m getting.
  3. We CAN unite in charity. I think it’s a wonderful idea to bring us all together to do a good thing, but what’s the value of doing it this way? I guess we can say we were selfless enough to give up a night of drinking off campus, but the only people giving it up are the people who were “wasteful” enough to pay for it in the first place. I guess this is redemption? What about efforts to get the entire class involved not just the people who paid for cocks. Theoretically, we could still have cocks this February and have everyone who goes choose whether they want to pledge whatever amount as part of a class-wide or even school-wide event. A LOT more money would be raised that way and we wouldn’t have to give into the false choice of “giving up” something we enjoy and helping people.
  4. Just a stockpile of money? Not only is cocktails being talked about as a stupid night of drinking it’s also being thrown around as a source of a lot of money that is just sitting there. The reality is that the money is the investments that students made to have a good time with their peers throughout the year. This isn’t just a sum of money used to pay for cocktails, it’s money from several hundred students. I didn’t pay with the intention of contributing to a fund of $15,000, I paid for myself to have a good time. It’s annoying to me that every individual’s money together is now being treated as everyone’s money that can be spent according to majority vote. Of course, it’s a very glamorous idea to be donating a lump sum of $15,000, but I don’t think we should be seduced by the gratification that comes with giving 5 figures so much so that we forget that the money is a lot of $20’s.

What I Think Should/Could Happen Next

  1. Scrap the flawed survey and throw out the completely invalid results.
  2. Hold some kind of forum where students can propose and discuss ideas with the senior class officers.
  3. Apparently, there are traditionally 2 (or 3?) senior cocks during Senior Week. If things are gonna be done by proposal and survey vote, at least make it an option to cancel one of those instead of the February one.

So that’s what I have to say about that. I know not everybody agrees with everything I said, or some people could even agree and still feel that voting “Yes” was the best way to go. That’s all fine. But the important thing here is that we recognize that these kinds of decisions are worthy of discussion (in the comments below is a good place for it!). And that even people with charitable intentions need to be held accountable for making sure that students have input and that decisions about where the money will go are made fairly. As it is now, the proposal has already been made and if the proposal gets voted down we’ll probably be known as the class who couldn’t give up drinking for Haiti. That’s a ridiculous position that we’ve been put in.

BTW, that picture up there is from 2008 after hurricanes Ike and Hanna hit Haiti.

Oh, and for the record- I’m getting the refund and donating it to an organization of my choosing.

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141 thoughts on “Why I Chose to Vote “No” on the Senior Cocks proposal

  1. Redundant

    How would a person from Haiti react to this post? Its worth considering.

    I’m not trying to demonize anyone, but there is $15,000 sitting there right now. That could buy a lot of food for starving families. Or it could get a bunch of liberal arts students drunk. Regardless of whose money it is, who has the “right” to spend it, who should be making the decisions, how hypocritical anyone seems for demanding you donate without donating for themselves, or what kind of rhetorical errors were committed in your opponents’ posts, just ask yourself:

    Who REALLY needs the money?

  2. George Washington

    And ok, so maybe its not the completely 100% best way to donate money. I just don’t really care. They could really use it, and we can afford it.

  3. George Washington

    And ok, so maybe its not the completely 100% best way to donate money. I just don’t really care. They could really use it, and we can afford it.

  4. George Washington

    I’m a bit surprised this is a controversy. Its one night of not getting drunk. Hatians could really use some help. And we can afford it.

  5. George Washington

    I’m a bit surprised this is a controversy. Its one night of not getting drunk. Hatians could really use some help. And we can afford it.

  6. Abraham Lincoln

    I think it comes down to this:

    Whatever has happened so far, however well or poorly you think the SC officers have handled this, would you feel good going and getting wasted for an OK night of drinking?

    At this point, I just don’t think I’d enjoy myself.

    (But if you want to go further OP, YES, COCKTAILS IS FRIVOLOUS AND UNNECESSARY! That we spend close to $100,000 a year on getting the senior class drunk is absurd. It’s a luxury that we can enjoy, but in a difficult economic time where, on top of that, there’s a major disaster, it seems worth forfeiting)

  7. Abraham Lincoln

    I think it comes down to this:

    Whatever has happened so far, however well or poorly you think the SC officers have handled this, would you feel good going and getting wasted for an OK night of drinking?

    At this point, I just don’t think I’d enjoy myself.

    (But if you want to go further OP, YES, COCKTAILS IS FRIVOLOUS AND UNNECESSARY! That we spend close to $100,000 a year on getting the senior class drunk is absurd. It’s a luxury that we can enjoy, but in a difficult economic time where, on top of that, there’s a major disaster, it seems worth forfeiting)

  8. relevant anonymous commenter

    Did anything Argus 42 said make any sense? I see plenty of relevant anonymous discussion in the comments of this thread. Plus the “you’re only LOLing at yourself” line is a total non-sequitor – and ad hominem to boot! Totally inappropriate for an official statement from a news organization. Guess 36 struck a raw nerve, eh?

  9. relevant anonymous commenter

    Did anything Argus 42 said make any sense? I see plenty of relevant anonymous discussion in the comments of this thread. Plus the “you’re only LOLing at yourself” line is a total non-sequitor – and ad hominem to boot! Totally inappropriate for an official statement from a news organization. Guess 36 struck a raw nerve, eh?

  10. sg

    Alas, the day has come!

    The Argus is deferring to Wesleying for relevent and contentious student issues on campus.

    That deserves a cocktail of its own.

  11. sg

    Alas, the day has come!

    The Argus is deferring to Wesleying for relevent and contentious student issues on campus.

    That deserves a cocktail of its own.

  12. Ben

    I have to disagree with those who think senior cocks are a senior class bonding experience. I have no problem at all with people who like to party their hearts out on weekends, but senior cocktails, IMO, effectively forces this lifestyle on people like me who would rather refrain from it. To me, a senior class bonding opportunity should be something all-inclusive, rather than an event with a $100+ charge and one that completely ignores the desires of the admittedly small, but not insignificant, group of straight-edge seniors.

    (Yes, I realize people like me have the option of attending and not drinking, and I’m guessing a number of commenters will raise that point. To those of you who are inclined to suggest that, I ask if you have ever done so, as I have many a time. Suffice it to say it’s not fun.)

  13. Response to 43

    Perhaps senior cocktails shouldn’t be held if they are not necessary. This is an opportunity to make a significant donation *as a class*. Donation does not necessitate personalized sacrifice.

  14. Response to 43

    Perhaps senior cocktails shouldn’t be held if they are not necessary. This is an opportunity to make a significant donation *as a class*. Donation does not necessitate personalized sacrifice.

  15. reponse to 40

    That’s a discussion for another time. Senior cocks is to some degree exclusionary (costs, and people who don’t drink alcohol or aren’t comfortable with the social setting) but the fact remains that they are one of the few events designed and directed towards the entire class as a whole. Which is why they shouldn’t be canceled if its not necessary (and it isn’t).

    And again, the fact that for many people, paying for senior cocktails isn’t at all a sacrifice (since its their parents money), makes it even less meaningful.

  16. reponse to 40

    That’s a discussion for another time. Senior cocks is to some degree exclusionary (costs, and people who don’t drink alcohol or aren’t comfortable with the social setting) but the fact remains that they are one of the few events designed and directed towards the entire class as a whole. Which is why they shouldn’t be canceled if its not necessary (and it isn’t).

    And again, the fact that for many people, paying for senior cocktails isn’t at all a sacrifice (since its their parents money), makes it even less meaningful.

  17. Argus - response to 36

    Hmm. Actually, I think it’s tough for anonymous blog commenters to be relevant. Which was, you know, kind of the point. Op-ed certainly doesn’t lack for pieces, and it would be a good forum to bring this issue greater visiblity and legitimacy.
    And lest I even remind you – you’re only “LOL”ing at yourself. Op-ed, unlike other sections, is an open platform for the wes community. What you choose to contribute (or not contribute) to it is ultimately a reflection on you.

  18. Argus - response to 36

    Hmm. Actually, I think it’s tough for anonymous blog commenters to be relevant. Which was, you know, kind of the point. Op-ed certainly doesn’t lack for pieces, and it would be a good forum to bring this issue greater visiblity and legitimacy.
    And lest I even remind you – you’re only “LOL”ing at yourself. Op-ed, unlike other sections, is an open platform for the wes community. What you choose to contribute (or not contribute) to it is ultimately a reflection on you.

  19. reponse to 39/11

    Except, as many have pointed out, many individuals here (if not most) have already donated, and canceling Senior Cocks isn’t individuals donating, it’s their parents money being re-allocated (in most cases).

    Why not, as others have suggested, simply ask for an additional voluntary donation at the event to go to Haiti? Or simply email the senior class asking for more donations? It’d be more meaningful and avoid canceling an event that has more benefits than just being a simple party at Wes.

  20. reponse to 39/11

    Except, as many have pointed out, many individuals here (if not most) have already donated, and canceling Senior Cocks isn’t individuals donating, it’s their parents money being re-allocated (in most cases).

    Why not, as others have suggested, simply ask for an additional voluntary donation at the event to go to Haiti? Or simply email the senior class asking for more donations? It’d be more meaningful and avoid canceling an event that has more benefits than just being a simple party at Wes.

  21. Response to 37

    Senior cocktails is an opportunity to party with the *whole senior class*? Or those who can afford to go?

  22. Response to 37

    Senior cocktails is an opportunity to party with the *whole senior class*? Or those who can afford to go?

  23. anon

    @34
    #11 here. in fact, i completely understood the original post and others’ arguments, (both here and on the ACB) and i DO think that if we wanted to be completely ethical, we should always donate to charity instead of doing something slightly more frivolous. (hi john stuart mill). i know that’s obviously unreasonable, but in this case i feel that it is clearly the right choice because *everyone* will give up cocks together (and will probably party that night anyway, at wes) and it would be a really nice sum of money without any individual person having to give up too much. that’s all.

  24. anon

    @34
    #11 here. in fact, i completely understood the original post and others’ arguments, (both here and on the ACB) and i DO think that if we wanted to be completely ethical, we should always donate to charity instead of doing something slightly more frivolous. (hi john stuart mill). i know that’s obviously unreasonable, but in this case i feel that it is clearly the right choice because *everyone* will give up cocks together (and will probably party that night anyway, at wes) and it would be a really nice sum of money without any individual person having to give up too much. that’s all.

  25. Justin

    Forget symbolism, what would be the practical costs of giving 15K to Haiti? They’ve already received over a billion dollars and I’m sure as hell the shitty government there won’t even know what to do with most of it.

  26. Justin

    Forget symbolism, what would be the practical costs of giving 15K to Haiti? They’ve already received over a billion dollars and I’m sure as hell the shitty government there won’t even know what to do with most of it.

  27. Mad

    As an ’09, I have to say that I agree with whatshername – and that senior cocks are far from useless.

    Senior cocks are a chance to get drunk and party, yes, but it’s more than that. It’s partying with the *whole senior class*. It’s an opportunity for the senior class to bond in a way that it otherwise just doesn’t. It’s a chance to have all your friends together in one place, without the drama about who to invite and will-it-get-too-big-for-your-senior-house.

    Yes, there are more important things in the world than your partying and bonding. Yes, you’re getting a world class education and are surrounded by amazing peers while other people around the world are struggling in poverty. And that privilege should, in fact, be sitting with you all the time, every day. But that doesn’t mean you should stop living. As another commenter pointed out, why stop here? Why not sell your computer to donate money? Why not work an extra job to get money to donate? Why not quit school to get a full-time paying job to get money to donate?

    And, while Haiti clearly needs a lot of help and money right now, it’s been getting a lot of attention and a lot of people *have* been donating money. It could use more, but what good cause couldn’t? Why not cancel the next senior cocks to donate to the Kibera School for Girls? And the next one to the Heifer project?

    I agree with those who say this is a hasty, false dichotomy. You should be conscious of the world around you, and you should donate money to people less fortunate than you, who can spend the money on way more important things than you probably do. But if you’re ever going to buy ice cream at ColdStone, booze at Metro, a night of laser tag, a Wesleyan education, you don’t have to feel guilty about it if you enjoy it and it’s meaningful to you. Senior cocks isn’t useless. Go to senior cocks, and then donate another $20 (yes, most of you can afford it) to an important cause of your choice.

  28. Mad

    As an ’09, I have to say that I agree with whatshername – and that senior cocks are far from useless.

    Senior cocks are a chance to get drunk and party, yes, but it’s more than that. It’s partying with the *whole senior class*. It’s an opportunity for the senior class to bond in a way that it otherwise just doesn’t. It’s a chance to have all your friends together in one place, without the drama about who to invite and will-it-get-too-big-for-your-senior-house.

    Yes, there are more important things in the world than your partying and bonding. Yes, you’re getting a world class education and are surrounded by amazing peers while other people around the world are struggling in poverty. And that privilege should, in fact, be sitting with you all the time, every day. But that doesn’t mean you should stop living. As another commenter pointed out, why stop here? Why not sell your computer to donate money? Why not work an extra job to get money to donate? Why not quit school to get a full-time paying job to get money to donate?

    And, while Haiti clearly needs a lot of help and money right now, it’s been getting a lot of attention and a lot of people *have* been donating money. It could use more, but what good cause couldn’t? Why not cancel the next senior cocks to donate to the Kibera School for Girls? And the next one to the Heifer project?

    I agree with those who say this is a hasty, false dichotomy. You should be conscious of the world around you, and you should donate money to people less fortunate than you, who can spend the money on way more important things than you probably do. But if you’re ever going to buy ice cream at ColdStone, booze at Metro, a night of laser tag, a Wesleyan education, you don’t have to feel guilty about it if you enjoy it and it’s meaningful to you. Senior cocks isn’t useless. Go to senior cocks, and then donate another $20 (yes, most of you can afford it) to an important cause of your choice.

  29. anon

    The fact that 11 and 25 see this as so black and white is testament to their utter lack of ability to the simple and well phrased arguments of the original post. Given that this brings up difficult moral issues such as how much is one supposed to give up in the name of helping others? Every time I consider buying a new pair of pants, should I instead donate that money to a charity. Any senior who bought cocktails tickets originally and then condemns the post does not meet their own standards of morality since there were plenty of charities they could have donated to at the beginning of the year.

    The problem is that, now, we were asked explicitly to choose instead of the normal implicit decision in spending money on ourselves. And in this case, I could not say no to the explicit question. However, if you were asked the explicit question of what you valued more every single time you went to buy a new pair of pants or overpriced education you better believe you would stop answering so favorably.

  30. anon

    The fact that 11 and 25 see this as so black and white is testament to their utter lack of ability to the simple and well phrased arguments of the original post. Given that this brings up difficult moral issues such as how much is one supposed to give up in the name of helping others? Every time I consider buying a new pair of pants, should I instead donate that money to a charity. Any senior who bought cocktails tickets originally and then condemns the post does not meet their own standards of morality since there were plenty of charities they could have donated to at the beginning of the year.

    The problem is that, now, we were asked explicitly to choose instead of the normal implicit decision in spending money on ourselves. And in this case, I could not say no to the explicit question. However, if you were asked the explicit question of what you valued more every single time you went to buy a new pair of pants or overpriced education you better believe you would stop answering so favorably.

  31. anon

    25 – No, it is a false choice. You can donate your own money. On a reasonable level, the decision is better phrased “how much of your own money would you like to donate to haiti relief efforts?” Once you’ve answered that question, odds are you aren’t entirely broke. So “Would you like to spend $20 on a party?” becomes an entirely separate question. Sacrificing a senior cocks is a question of, as the post quoted in 29 pointed out, coercing others to donate money and deciding to not spend money on senior cocks.

  32. anon

    25 – No, it is a false choice. You can donate your own money. On a reasonable level, the decision is better phrased “how much of your own money would you like to donate to haiti relief efforts?” Once you’ve answered that question, odds are you aren’t entirely broke. So “Would you like to spend $20 on a party?” becomes an entirely separate question. Sacrificing a senior cocks is a question of, as the post quoted in 29 pointed out, coercing others to donate money and deciding to not spend money on senior cocks.

  33. Argus

    This presents a really interesting debate that could benefit and evolve from greater visibility – we encourage the posters, commenters and the senior committee to submit Wespeaks on the issue, OR, better yet, present a more in-depth argument through an opinion piece for the Op-Ed section.

    Contact the editor to submit wespeaks or to write an opinion piece: adomanick@wesleyan.edu.

    wespeaks can also be submitted via the argus’ website.

  34. Argus

    This presents a really interesting debate that could benefit and evolve from greater visibility – we encourage the posters, commenters and the senior committee to submit Wespeaks on the issue, OR, better yet, present a more in-depth argument through an opinion piece for the Op-Ed section.

    Contact the editor to submit wespeaks or to write an opinion piece: adomanick@wesleyan.edu.

    wespeaks can also be submitted via the argus’ website.

  35. sacrifice a different cock

    i think the philosophical issue of whether partying is greater or less than foreign aid is stupid. either we’ll send the money or not, but i agree with the original poster that it would be much better to donate the money that will be used for one of the 2 or 3 cocks during senior week instead of the one in february. the moral arguments are impractical in their inability to compromise.

  36. sacrifice a different cock

    i think the philosophical issue of whether partying is greater or less than foreign aid is stupid. either we’ll send the money or not, but i agree with the original poster that it would be much better to donate the money that will be used for one of the 2 or 3 cocks during senior week instead of the one in february. the moral arguments are impractical in their inability to compromise.

  37. Dave

    From the ACB, perhaps a little dated, but still has some useful information regarding our thought process in this thing.

    Ok hopefully I can straighten some of this out here. Let me start by saying that this was not some unilateral decision by one class officer. As a matter of fact, the initial suggestion wasn’t made by an officer at all, so to say that this concept was birthed out of one person’s personal motives is incorrect. The initial idea behind this proposal was simple: How could we, as a class, do something for this cause? We discussed the potential of sponsoring events on campus, fundraiser, concerts, etc. The reason this idea was so appealing was because of the magnitude of the donation. For the record, the donation would be more in the area of 20 grand, not the 15 originally assumed, so apologies for that not being clear. I doubt (though hope I am wrong) that any fundraising effort we could organize would be able to accumulate that kind of money. We felt that because of the amount that could be donated, it was worth considering. We did not choose to explore this idea because of its “ease”, it was simply the only way to raise those kinds of funds. I should also mention, for what it’s worth, thatin no way wanted to seem patronizing, condescending, etc. We fully realize the remarkable efforts that have been made around campus in contributing to this cause, but we thought it worth attempting to do something as a class. We also understand that the money for cocktails is in no way ours to use as we wish, and I assure you it has never been viewed in that way. It is also worth mentioning here that the majority of the funds used for planning cocktails is allocated by the SBC to our class, not from pass sales. I make this point to make clear that everyone donating their 20 dollars would not come close to the amount that the donation could be if we donated the total funds designated for cocktails. Also the notion on this forum that we are doing this in some effort to avoid the pain of planning the February cocktail is ridiculous. To put together this donation would probably take just as much effort. I apologize for the way that the survey came out. We are now aware of the potential for multiple votes, and the fact that those who chose not to purchase cocktail passes could in fact vote. It merely seemed that a survey was the simplest way to gather the class’s vibe on this proposal, which is obviously necessary. That being said, this proposal was never going to be followed through on behind the back of the collective class. None of us would even consider that. If the survey seemed to guilt trip anyone we apologize as well. Again, we understand that there are any number of reasons for people to not support this idea, we tried to make this survey objective and devoid of any pushiness, regardless of how it seemed that. Again, the sole motive behind this idea was the fact that we have an opportunity to donate a significant amount of money that otherwise we probably would not be able to raise. We also realize that there are a plethora of situations deserving of our support, though I don’t think that is an excuse to not do something for this cause if we believe it to be appropriate. I apologize if this was poorly orchestrated, I promise no hasty decisions on this will be made. I also think that we could take this outside of the ACB, probably not the most useful place for people to vent. Feel free to email seniorclass@wesleyan.edu if you haven’t already, or any of the class officers. Sorry for the rant, just thought I would put in my two cents!

  38. Dave

    From the ACB, perhaps a little dated, but still has some useful information regarding our thought process in this thing.

    Ok hopefully I can straighten some of this out here. Let me start by saying that this was not some unilateral decision by one class officer. As a matter of fact, the initial suggestion wasn’t made by an officer at all, so to say that this concept was birthed out of one person’s personal motives is incorrect. The initial idea behind this proposal was simple: How could we, as a class, do something for this cause? We discussed the potential of sponsoring events on campus, fundraiser, concerts, etc. The reason this idea was so appealing was because of the magnitude of the donation. For the record, the donation would be more in the area of 20 grand, not the 15 originally assumed, so apologies for that not being clear. I doubt (though hope I am wrong) that any fundraising effort we could organize would be able to accumulate that kind of money. We felt that because of the amount that could be donated, it was worth considering. We did not choose to explore this idea because of its “ease”, it was simply the only way to raise those kinds of funds. I should also mention, for what it’s worth, thatin no way wanted to seem patronizing, condescending, etc. We fully realize the remarkable efforts that have been made around campus in contributing to this cause, but we thought it worth attempting to do something as a class. We also understand that the money for cocktails is in no way ours to use as we wish, and I assure you it has never been viewed in that way. It is also worth mentioning here that the majority of the funds used for planning cocktails is allocated by the SBC to our class, not from pass sales. I make this point to make clear that everyone donating their 20 dollars would not come close to the amount that the donation could be if we donated the total funds designated for cocktails. Also the notion on this forum that we are doing this in some effort to avoid the pain of planning the February cocktail is ridiculous. To put together this donation would probably take just as much effort. I apologize for the way that the survey came out. We are now aware of the potential for multiple votes, and the fact that those who chose not to purchase cocktail passes could in fact vote. It merely seemed that a survey was the simplest way to gather the class’s vibe on this proposal, which is obviously necessary. That being said, this proposal was never going to be followed through on behind the back of the collective class. None of us would even consider that. If the survey seemed to guilt trip anyone we apologize as well. Again, we understand that there are any number of reasons for people to not support this idea, we tried to make this survey objective and devoid of any pushiness, regardless of how it seemed that. Again, the sole motive behind this idea was the fact that we have an opportunity to donate a significant amount of money that otherwise we probably would not be able to raise. We also realize that there are a plethora of situations deserving of our support, though I don’t think that is an excuse to not do something for this cause if we believe it to be appropriate. I apologize if this was poorly orchestrated, I promise no hasty decisions on this will be made. I also think that we could take this outside of the ACB, probably not the most useful place for people to vent. Feel free to email seniorclass@wesleyan.edu if you haven’t already, or any of the class officers. Sorry for the rant, just thought I would put in my two cents!

  39. liza

    the extra $6.67 or whatever that everyone is worried about goes to your senior gift. that you donated i believe $10 for.

  40. liza

    the extra $6.67 or whatever that everyone is worried about goes to your senior gift. that you donated i believe $10 for.

  41. anon

    I commend whatshername for this brave post. I think there are valid arguments on both sides of the debate, but to publicly support voting no exposes one to be personally attacked, as evidenced by some of the comments. However, the post was seemingly thoughtful and sincere, and deserves to be seriously considered.

  42. anon

    I commend whatshername for this brave post. I think there are valid arguments on both sides of the debate, but to publicly support voting no exposes one to be personally attacked, as evidenced by some of the comments. However, the post was seemingly thoughtful and sincere, and deserves to be seriously considered.

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