Andrew Breitbart Disses Wesleyan at Tea Party Convention

20, 22: Or possibly they were experiencing crowd mentality? Personally, I’d say it took about as long as it took everyone in that audience to cheer before I really got what the guy was saying. That audience, however, cheered to everything he said without pause. Debatable, but something tells me he could have pulled out any name of a non-University and they’d still laugh, thinking it was a place they should know about….

23 = I totally respect the points that you’ve made and I respect that, and you’re right, a jocular comment about “so much for diversity” isnt extremely productive. That being said, my “so much for diversity” comment wasnt about being offended. it was more in reaction to Rob Wohl’s commment that the takedowns of 6/8/15 be used whenever Mytheos opens his mouth. I dont really give a fuck about offending people. I’m frustrated with the fact that conservative thought seems to be so thoroughly hated and reviled that difference of opinion dont get to be expressed.

That being said, all of the things you listed in the first paragraph definitely apply as hate speech. And I’m not telling anyone not to speak out! Rather, I’d prefer if you could speak and then listen, as opposed to shooting down those who have conservative values as “stupid tea partiers.” that just seems unproductive and against the wesleyan spirit.

So James, what would you most consider to be hate-speech? Someone saying that gay people are an abomination and don’t deserve equal rights? Someone saying that women shouldn’t have the right to make decisions about their own health? Or someone saying that either one of these statements is hurtful and misled?

I recognize that some people have differences in opinion in terms of size of govt., national defense, yada, yada, yada, and that’s fine. But there are some people whose politics just sound like “hate-speech” to me. And that’s what I can’t tolerate. To me, being anti-choice is misogynistic. Being against gay marriage is homophobic. Thus, I will speak out on these issues.

Also, it’s so annoying every time someone says “so much for diversity university” when another person shoots down an idea they don’t like. I’m not speaking for all of Wesleyan. I could never even try to do that. Wes is a pretty awesome place that actually is pretty diverse compared to most schools. It’s so awesome that stupid tea partiers are trying to tear us down. So enough with all this wimpy, kumbaya, let’s not offend anyone bullshit. People have differences of opinions. They argue about them. They often refuse to change their mind. That’s what makes free speech great. I can hate everything you stand for, and tell you that. Deal with it.

Hey fellow Alum (#19) – I thought the same thing when I watched this. It said to me that the “tea partiers” at this convention were likely not a bunch of grassroots people coming up from the masses, but likely from somewhere near the elite they’re bashing.

Rob,

Would you prefer someone like Mytheos who tends to present thought-out, well-articulated articles, or someone who actually exercises hate speak? I disagree with the majority of Mytheos writes, but I appreciate his writing because it gives me insight into the inner workings of actual right-of-center human beings rather than those nutjobs at the Tea Party convention.

There are people out there who value small government, free markets, and the tenents of Christianity. To refuse to engage in serious dialogue with them and simply label them as “misogynists” or “fascists” without seeking to understand the personal and logical bases for there opinions is so fucking closedminded.

So much for diversity university.

p.s. a note on “social conservatives.” To us, plenty of these people who seek security thorugh religious faith are fools. But most of these people are simply seeking to hold onto the values and beliefs that make life make sense for them. Those who use hate-speech don’t deserve to be taken serious, but those who don’t deserve the tolerance and respect that we as Wesleyan students are so willing to preach but just as likely to disregard.

maybe they thought they were laughing at Hillary Clinton’s alma mater

Can we just get take a step back for a moment and note — with surprise — that the Tea Partiers actually //got// Brietbart’s joke? Like, they laughed in a “that IS so Wesleyan way”?

Who the fuck knows Wesleyan exists? Throw that “joke” at a random group of liberals and you might have only heard a polite cough.

I think congratulations are in order: good job keeping the leftist legacy going, Wes!

Heathen,

You are absolutely right. It’s not about ducking the argument. When someone truly believes in Satanic, socialistic principles the way you seem to, why even bother trying to argue with them? Are you going to change your opinion? are you going to suddenly open your heart and become a Godly follower of the Bible? No, you’ll think of some clever way to make your opinions sound like they come from a moral or decent position and drive yourself further into the abyss of radical individualism and anti-Western progressive BS you embrace so thoroughly. Call it ducking an argument if you want, but it’s the same response I give to any other “liberal” who cares more about stealing the money of hardworking people than truly thinking about how they came to their position on an issue.

Also, I totally agree with Rob Wohl. Talking to people who disagree with you is a waste of time. We should just shout them down because there’s no way we can ever be wrong.

(/irony)

16 is totally right, but 6/8/15 has written a takedown so perfect that it should be the standard response to mytheos every time he tries to engage you in conversation.

This is obviously not Mytheos Holt. No matter how much people may diasgree with him, I think the guy has way to much respect for the English language to write phrases like “twisted BiLeGaTTa fag friends”

Epic troll tho, totes worthy of the ACB

my “name-calling” has nothing to do with helping the progressive cause. i’m just calling it as i see it. and as i see it, if someone is homophobic and misogynistic (a la, mytheos) and is supporting an incredibly bigoted, homophobic, misogynistic group (a la, the tea party movement) they must either be ignorant, or an idiot. seeing as how mytheos goes to wesleyan, we should probably take ignorant out of the picture. thus, we’re left with him being an idiot.

and mytheos, it’s not about ducking the argument, but when someone truly believes in something that is so antithetical to what i believe, why even bother trying to argue with them? are you going to change your opinion? are you going to suddenly open your heart and become a tolerant, rational human being? no, you’ll think of some clever way to make your opinions sound like they come from an intelligent or decent position and drive yourself further into the abyss of bigotry and hatred you embrace so thoroughly. call it ducking an argument if you want, but it’s the same response i give to any other “social conservative” who cares more about denying someone their rights than truly thinking about how they came to their position on an issue.

-#6/8

@#6 – I normally ignore posts like yours, but while I’m here: What are you doing? Do you think name-calling helps the progressive cause?

Cheers for “speaking your mind”…

Sorry if anyone was intimidated when I talked about race and racism earlier. I didn’t mean it like that.

It’s okay. I’m an idiot. Ignore things that come out of my mouth.

I support your right to voice your opinion, Mytheos. While I don’t know exactly what your views are, I thoroughly hate ad hominem attacks in lieu of productive debate.

Note to myself: Stop posting without my permission. Also, stop being an asshole.

And #8, duh, I understand sarcasm, and nice job ducking the argument. Whatever. I’ll let it slide for now.

#8/6 – These ad hominem attacks must cease. You and the rest of your twisted BiLeGaTTa fag friends are defacing an honest movement from residents of the Real America. The wrecking ball of subjectivist social-welfarism will no longer crash against the abandoned skyscraper of capitalism and prosperity.

mytheos, don’t you understand sarcasm?

-#6

#6 – At the risk of feeding a troll, no one said those words weren’t negative. What he’s saying is that people overuse it in inappropriate situations, thus degrading their power and cheapening political discourse, because they’re oversensitive and see racism/homophobia behind every bush.

And I am happy to have the discussion about the tea party movement with you at any time, anywhere. I’m doing my thesis on the conservative movement – I know what I’m defending. As for my IQ, let’s not go there – ad hominem attacks will get you nowhere.

wait, racism and homophobia aren’t negative? thanks for educating me on that mytheos and tea party movement. also, mytheos, how the hell did you get accepted to wesleyan? supporting these tea party idiots is the stupidest in a long line of idiotic things you’ve said/done. good thing wesleyan is getting more applications and can be more selective to ensure its future students have IQ’s above 57.

What are you talking about, Mytheos? “Heteronormative” has a pretty simple and coherent definition.

Also, I knew what “racist” and “homophobic” meant before I came here. Only the more faux-academic stuff like “heteronormative” was new – but then, that word means whatever its users want it to mean.

Tell it like it is, brother. Speaking for myself, when I’m talking to fellow conservatives, it’s tough not to turn our freshman orientation into a standup routine, parts of it are so ludicrous (I’m looking at you, “BiLeGaTa” and “Unspeakable Acts”).

MWHAHAHA… bring it on tea partay!!!!

MWAhahaha!